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Info-Mac Digest Tue, 18 May 93 Volume 11 : Issue 104
Today's Topics:
[*] 4D Alert external
[*] 4D ErrorString 1.0.1 external
[*] 4D FindFolder 1.1 external
[*] 4D Volumes external
[*] background-hider.hqx
[*] Brian's Sound Tool 1.1.1
[*] Canvas 3.0.6 Updated Tools
[*] Colour Text Package 2.0.1 (HyperCard Utility)
[*] Deskwriter 3.9 Drivers
[*] Disk Charmer 2.0.1
[*] File submission
[*] FW2.0.1
[*]JoelsPPATS.sit.hqx
[*] MandelZot 4.0 [part 1 of 9]
[*] MandelZot 4.0 documentation [part 1 of 8]
[*] Printer driver for DeskJets, LaserJets (Free)
[*] Re: Furisampleoso mark 3
[*] Rene's 4D Externals data-base
[*] Sculley Interview snds
(Q) LogiCache
1 or 2 line descriptions of programs - please send to me
4D (Q)
[ANS] ZiffNet/Mac Software
Any good editors for programming on the Mac?
Any good editors for programming on the Mac? (A)
Any good editors for programming on the Mac? (R)
AppleWorks <-> Macintosh
CA-Cricket Graph question
Can't we keep it clean? (R)
Canon BubbleJet Ink Cartridge equivalent to Stylewriter II (Q)
Columbus Mac User Group
Comment on IIvi cancelation
Connecting PC to an Appleshare server
Connecting PC to AppleShare server (A & Q)
Demo of claris resolve? nisus? wordperfect?
Desktop files (Q)
Emaiil address for Symantic? (R)
Error -39 Wierdness
Fax no. or e-mail addr of MacroMedia?
File Creater Type List
Font conversion utils?
Fund-raising Software Recommendations Needed
Guest connection rejected at this time. Try again later. (C)
Handling resources in Think C... (Q)
Help! Where is Thread Manager Extension?
HP ScanJet IIc vs. LaCie's new scanner, + NEC's 95F printer.
Info-Mac Digest V11 #103
Intercon's Wordlink Program
Laserwriter II Error Codes.(Q)
laserwriter Pro 600 and Printserver
Licensing agreements
Losing Application Mapping on a regular basis
Mac <-> IBM RS/6000
MacEqn
Macintosh Revealed
Mac SCSI Ethernet access
MacWrite Pro Tables (Q)
Mindmaps (2 msgs)
Mitsubishi Video Copy Processor
Need a pretty Mono-spaced font (A)
Need a pretty Mono-spaced font (commercial or otherwise) (A)
New Directory Structure on sumex
Nuclear plant simulation
Older softwares to give away
PB 160 and QC
PC -> Mac DTP
Personal Laser Writer LS
Ping for Macs?
Please network help....
PortConnector 1.0 Posting
Printer on appletalk
Protest at IIvi cancellation - a comment
PS to EPS
Request for Logic Font (R)
SCSI terminators (Q)
Snooper Works !
Speedometer records for '040
Super Card Advice needed
The REAL story behind comp.sys.mac.scitech
Touchbase Pro (in defense of...) (C)
Updater for FalconMC?
Worldscript keyboard interference
ZiffNet/Mac discussion
ZiffNet/Mac Software (c)
The Info-Mac newsgroup is moderated by Bill Lipa and Gordon Watts.
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Date: Mon, 17 May 93 13:00:24 MET DST
From: "Rene G.A. Ros" <rgaros@bio.vu.nl>
Subject: [*] 4D Alert external
RR Alert
This external displays an alert with text and different icons.
FreeWare.
See the 'Rene's 4D Externals' data-base for an example on how to use
this external.
C 1993 Rene G.A. Ros, The Netherlands
rgaros@bio.vu.nl
[Archived as /info-mac/dev/a4d/alert.hqx; 8K]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 93 13:02:06 MET DST
From: "Rene G.A. Ros" <rgaros@bio.vu.nl>
Subject: [*] 4D ErrorString 1.0.1 external
RR StringError 1.0.1
External returns in a string containing a string describing the error of
which you passed the error-number. Includes all errors 4D v2 and v3
can return as well as some standard Apple error numbers returned by
externals.
FreeWare.
See the 'Rene's 4D Externals' data-base for an example on how to use
this external.
C 1993 Rene G.A. Ros, The Netherlands
[Archived as /info-mac/dev/a4d/rr-string-error-101.hqx; 10K]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 93 12:59:42 MET DST
From: "Rene G.A. Ros" <rgaros@bio.vu.nl>
Subject: [*] 4D FindFolder 1.1 external
4D FindFolder External 1.1
This external returns a string containing the path of a special folder
using the FindFolder system procedure. It is meant to be used
together with the FilePack external, but can be used without it.
In addition it is able to return other paths as well, in some cases
not to a folder but to an application or document.
Fixed several errors and adds some features as wel. See documentation
for more info.
USAGE:
err := RR FindFolder ( type ; path )
PostCardWare
See the 'Rene's 4D Externals' data-base for an example on how to use
this external.
C 1993 Rene G.A. Ros, The Netherlands
[Archived as /info-mac/dev/a4d/find-folder-11.hqx; 31K]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 93 13:01:13 MET DST
From: "Rene G.A. Ros" <rgaros@bio.vu.nl>
Subject: [*] 4D Volumes external
RR Volumes
This external returns name and file system name of a volume.
FreeWare.
See the 'Rene's 4D Externals' data-base for an example on how to use
this external.
C 1993 Rene G.A. Ros, The Netherlands
rgaros@bio.vu.nl
[Archived as /info-mac/dev/a4d/name-and-file-of-volume.hqx; 2K]
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Date: Sun, 16 May 93 21:08:23 -0700
From: Bill Dugan <interpla@orion.oac.uci.edu>
Subject: [*] background-hider.hqx
This is a little app that takes 20K of memory and opens a big black window
that covers your entire startup monitor. I wrote this one day because it
bothered me that Microprose's game Civilization doesn't entirely hide the
desktop, yet it changes the palette all the time, so every time the palette
is changed, the Finder sees the need to redraw every single icon that sits
on your desktop, even if "Hide Finder" is on. So now I run the
Background Hider application, hide it, launch Civilization, go through the
initial alerts to generate my world, choose "Hide Others," switch to
Background
Hider, and switch back to Civ. It does seem to make play a tiny bit faster
than it is without Background Hider.
bdugan@gnu.ai.mit.edu
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/background-hider.hqx; 6K]
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 10:30:08 +1000
From: bscott@ironbark.ucnv.edu.au (Brian Scott)
Subject: [*] Brian's Sound Tool 1.1.1
Enclosed is a small drag and drop sound coversion utility designed mainly
for transfering files between the Macintosh and Windoze.
It works under system 6 or 7, supporting the required Apple events under
system 7.
Output is a mac sound file if the input isn't from a mac, otherwise the
output is a Windoze .WAV file. Input can be either of those plus a bunch
of others like sound blaster .VOC files, Sun/NeXT .au, FSSD (either HCOM or
not), and other less tested types.
Some (basic) doco is included.
I'm not asking for a shareware fee because I am a little less than prompt
paying them myself.
Enjoy
Brian Scott
bscott@ironbark.ucnv.edu.au
[Archived as /info-mac/snd/util/brians-sound-tool-11.hqx; 25K]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 93 00:09:45 -0700
From: Claude Errera <errera@ese.ogi.edu>
Subject: [*] Canvas 3.0.6 Updated Tools
In digest 11-103, Tony Huang kindly uploaded the Canvas 3.0.6
updater, and asked if someone could add the new tools.
Here you go!
Claude
errera@ese.ogi.edu
[Archived as /info-mac/app/canvas-302-updated-tools.hqx; 1043K]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 13:10:20 +1200
From: N.Perry@massey.ac.nz (Nigel Perry)
Subject: [*] Colour Text Package 2.0.1 (HyperCard Utility)
This is Colour Text Package 2.0.1, a set of utilities for HyperCard which
support colour text in fields. The only change from version 2.0 is the
inclusion of a Finder 7 compatible version of the font suitcase, if you had
trouble with the one in 2.0 download this version, if you never did don't
panic and forget the download.
Cost: A postcard, to most people for personal use.
Enjoy!
Nigel
[Archived as /info-mac/card/colour-text-package-201.hqx; 65K]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 17:04:35 -0600
From: b-olson@nwu.edu (Brian David Olson)
Subject: [*] Deskwriter 3.9 Drivers
I just got the new drivers from Hewlett Packard for the Deskwriter. When I
ordered them (I didn't feel like waiting any longer ;-) they told me that I
was free to upload them. So here you go. I haven't tried them out yet, I
wanted to send them to the archives first. I hope that they solve all of
the problems with 3.1!
...brian
[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/deskwriter-print-drivers.hqx; 782K]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 93 16:13:54 +0200
From: simula3@di.unito.it ( Rodella-Morena)
Subject: [*] Disk Charmer 2.0.1
Disk Charmer 2.0.1 is a neat utility that lets you conveniently
initialize (or verify) floppy disks.
I have fixed a couple of bugs from version 2.0.
It *requires* at least System 7 to run.
It has a nice, modeless interface.
It supports drag&drop (with the required Apple Events).
It is able to create larger disks: you gain 8.5K on a 800K disk,
18.5K on a HD disk (if you keep one large file filling the disk,
such as a Compact Pro segment).
It is the first disk formatter supporting the handy "Undo" feature
we all know and love.
It is the first disk formatter able to initialize and verify disks
(hold your breath) *in background*. To access this feature, you need
the Thread Manager Extension from Apple Computer.
It has even more features... but I am sure you are already impressed!
Enjoy yourself and remember the $10 shareware fee!
Fabrizio Oddone
[Archived as /info-mac/disk/disk-charmer-201.hqx; 71K]
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Date: Sun, 16 May 93 21:03:27 PDT
From: harrym@netcom.com (Harry Myhre)
Subject: [*] File submission
Written by Harry Myhre
Sun, May 16, 1993
Vox 213-876-1965
Internet <harrym@netcom.com>
This stack contains resources for two palettes similiar to the
Navigator palette shipped with HyperCard 2.x. One palette is a
lengthened version of the Navigator palette, the other is a
shortened version. The short palette works better with small
screens. Click on the buttons below to show the palettes.
[Archived as /info-mac/card/x/enhanced-palettes.hqx; 5K]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 21:01:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: zobkiw@world.std.com (Joe Zobkiw)
Subject: [*] FW2.0.1
Folder Watcher 2.0.1 (5/17/93)
Folder Watcher is a faceless background application that keeps
an eye on an unlimited number of folders on your Macintosh, or
a remote Macintosh or server. If the contents of any of these
folders ever change, Folder Watcher will respond by showing an
alert, playing a system beep or a custom sound, writing to a
log file, executing an AppleScript script, or any combination
of these.
Folder Watcher requires System 7. Although it does not require
a network, it is most useful when used on one. Folder Watcher
is 32 bit clean and is 68040 compatible.
Folder Watcher has many great uses such as:
% Network Administrators who want to track changes to folders
on the network.
% Users can see when someone adds a new file to a TPublicU folder
and can be the first ones to check out the goodies.
% Users can keep an alias to their Tdrop boxU located on the
network server.
% Users who share a dropbox on their local hard disks can keep
an eye on it for files that another user drops off. When a user
drops a file in your dropbox, you will be alerted as soon as
possible!
% When you download files you may want all TEXT files to be routed
to a particular place on the network, use AppleScript scripts to
scan the newly changed folder for files of type TEXT and move them
for you -- automatically!
% Using AppleScript, you can perform ANY function on ANY file that
is in a changed folder the moment it changes. Think of the
possibilities! Archiving data, moving files, deleting old files,
copying to a server, stuffing files, merging data, etc.
Bugs fixed in 2.0.1:
% Fixed a bug that would cause the extension to quit when
launched if you were running < System 7.1 and not running
QuickTime. Anyone running System 7.1 or later and/or running
QuickTime 1.0 or later would not experience this problem.
Sorry about this :(
% Added an "Open Log File" button to the control panel.
% Changed the way sounds were loaded in the extension, thus
knocking 25K off the RAM required for Folder Watcher.
Full documentation is enclosed. Folder Watcher is shareware.
Email zobkiw@world.std.com for comments or suggestions.
[Archived as /info-mac/disk/folder-watcher-201.hqx; 87K]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 17:09:47 -0500
From: kruse@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (kruse joel)
Subject: [*]JoelsPPATS.sit.hqx
[*] JoelsPPATS#12
This is a set of desktop patterns I have created using the
Kodak PhotoCD and Aldus SuperPaint 3.0 with Gallery Effects.
The file is in Desktop Textures format, but the ppat resources
can be imported into pretty much any ppat installer.
Please let me know if you like these, or if you are curious
about how I created these.
Joel Kruse
kruse@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu
[Archived as /info-mac/gui/joels-ppats-num12.hqx; 133K]
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 16 May 93 22:44:52 -0800
From: dplatt@snulbug.mtview.ca.us (Dave Platt)
Subject: [*] MandelZot 4.0 [part 1 of 9]
This is version 4.0 of MandelZot, a freeware application which can be
used to explore the Mandelbrot and Julia sets, as well as other related
and unrelated fractals.
MandelZot 4.0 replaces versions 3.0.7 (September '92) and earlier ones.
It adds support for a new "foreground acceleration" feature, and
includes external code modules for several new formulas.
Documentation follows in another archive.
---
Dave Platt
dplatt@snulbug.mtview.ca.us (domain/MX)
[Archived as /info-mac/sci/mandel-zot-40.hqx; 179K]
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 16 May 93 22:46:17 -0800
From: dplatt@snulbug.mtview.ca.us (Dave Platt)
Subject: [*] MandelZot 4.0 documentation [part 1 of 8]
This is the documentation for version 4.0 of MandelZot. The
documentation is provided in the form of a double-clickable reader
application. A copy of the external-code-module #include file "eci.h"
is included.
---
Dave Platt
dplatt@snulbug.mtview.ca.us (domain/MX)
[Archived as /info-mac/sci/mandel-zot-40-docs.hqx; 165K]
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 9:00:48 +1000 (EST)
From: RYANPH@mrl.dsto.gov.au (Philip FX Ryan)
Subject: [*] Printer driver for DeskJets, LaserJets (Free)
After communicating with Olli and Ari, they agreed that this printer driver
should be sent to the info-mac archives.
The driver is _free_, it works on _any mac_, it includes instructions for
making a cable to connect to the DeskJet printer series, and it works from
system 6 or system 7. This latest version supports dithering to produce
greyscale images. It has been tested to work on DeskJet, DeskJet Plus,
DeskJet 500, various versions of HP's LaserJet series.
Note: this driver does not print in colour with the colour DeskJets,
although it should be able to print in b&w quite OK from such printers.
Lastly, _please_ direct questions to the authors, either on
'oar@kurp-gw.hut.fi' or 'hpdj-bugs@hut.fi'.
Phil Ryan Melbourne, Australia
******* begin author's notice *******
Date: Sat, 15 May 1993 15:28:36 +0300
From: Olli "GuestStar" Arnberg <oar@kurp-gw.hut.fi>
Subject: HPDJ 3.1
We are pleased to announce a new version of HPDJ, version 3.1. It has xxx
features:
- Outputs neatly to the Hewlett-Packard DeskJet and is compatible with
most LaserJets.
- 5 resolutions: 75 dpi, 100 dpi (the one FAX uses, otherwise not a good
choice), 150 dpi, 300 dpi, and draft (it uses DeskJet's internal fonts).
- Compatibility with page setups of most Apple and many other printers
that are available in 1993. This driver recognizes and tolerates the paper
sizes that these printers use. HPDJ can now handle a variable number of
"foreign" printer paper sizes and a comprehensive set of paper sizes is
readily provided.
- Personal paper sizes.
- Portrait and Landscape printing directions.
- HPDJ reports its progress during printing much in the same way as
LaserWriter. (A small dialog box in the upper part of the screen.)
- The HPDJ can take advantage of Color QuickDraw if it is available on
your machine. You can instruct HPDJ to pretend to the application that it
can print 16 colors although in fact it can output only black and white
images. If the "Dither bitmaps" option is set, all bitmaps are dithered and
thus color and/or grayscale pixels are approximated with dither patterns.
- HPDJ can "Retain pattern sizes", but for "old-style" 8x8 bit patterns
only. Perhaps we might implement "new-style", or, color patterns, too. If
we did, this option mightQas a side effectQcause HPDJ to render different
solid colors as grayscale patterns everywhere, not just in bitmaps only.
- Bold and underline work in draft output. If you have bought (we haven't)
a DeskJet font cartridge for italic output, it should work too. (DeskJet
Plus, DeskJet 500, and most of the LaserJets have at least some italic
fonts built-in.) You can control how often the print head is repositioned
on a document-by-document basis. This repositioning is necessary to
achieve a better match between Macintosh and DeskJet fonts, but it
consumes more time.
- Support for PrGeneral. This allows an application to find out the
resolutions HPDJ is capable of and adjust its behavior accordingly. More
and more applications require it (and those who don't, might print more
beautifully).
- The printer driver finds out if an operation is allowed on that Macintosh
model / system software version and uses only those operations. Thus the
printer driver is compatible with System 2.0 onwards.
- Hopefully the driver is 32 bit clean. We have tested it only a little bit
(though it didn't show any bad signs). The most of this testing is left to
the big public. No dirty operations were knowingly used, though.
Enjoy, have fun,
Olli, Ari
hpdj-bugs@hut.fi
PS. This driver is *freeware*. It is not in the public domain, however:
Copyright (c) Ari Mujunen, Olli Arnberg 1993. Released 15.05.1993.
[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/desk-n-laser-jet-printdrv.hqx; 131K]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 09:33:16 -0700
From: Glenn Fleishman <fleglei@well.sf.ca.us>
Subject: [*] Re: Furisampleoso mark 3
It's a sample version of a font in both TrueType and Type 1 format. I
submitted it originally as Furisampleoso.sea.hqx about 1 month ago. There's
a readme document in the archive that has more info. This is just a
replacement for an incorrect archive which I submitted.
Glenn
Apparently the 2nd send of Furisampleoso was defective as well. This has
been tested by the U Michigan folks, so this is guaranteed correct. Please
remove all previous Furisampleoso.cpt.hqx or .sea.hqx versions. Thanks.
[Archived as /info-mac/font/tt/furisampleoso.hqx; 104K]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 13:02:55 MET DST
From: "Rene G.A. Ros" <rgaros@bio.vu.nl>
Subject: [*] Rene's 4D Externals data-base
This Compact Pro archive contains an example data-base (4D 2.2.3) to
show the working of these externals I wrote:
RR Alert
RR ErrorString
RR FindFolder
RR ScreenRes
RR Volumes
RR Worlddate
These externals are already installed. They are distributed separatly.
You are only allowed to distribute the externals installed in the
structure file. If you want to distribute one external, please download
them seperatly (documentation included).
C 1993 Rene G.A. Ros, The Netherlands
rgaros@bio.vu.nl
[Archived as /info-mac/dev/a4d/renes-external-db.hqx; 48K]
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Date: Mon, 17 May 93 13:04:07 MET DST
From: "Rene G.A. Ros" <rgaros@bio.vu.nl>
Subject: [*] Sculley Interview snds
The four sound files in this Binhqx-ed Compact Pro archive are from a
documentary from BBC Television about Apple and John Sculley.
Rene Ros
rgaros@bio.vu.nl
[Archived as /info-mac/snd/sculley-interview.hqx; 918K]
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 13:39:38 CDT
From: <AEZRAYS%UICVMC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: (Q) LogiCache
From: Keith Pollok (aezrays@uicvmc.bitnet)
I read a review of the LogiCache board for the IIsi that was in MacWorld
last weekend, and I got pretty gung-ho about this board. It was a pretty
inexpensive 50mhz 030 upgrade. This morning I started calling around.
MacWorld, MacWarehouse, and MacZone had never heard of the board. I tried
calling Logica Research, and got an answering machine that had maxxed
out on recorded messages and couldn't take any more. I called a few
hours later and it was no longer a working number. My Ehman alert sense
has started sending warning vibes. Anyone know anything?
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 16:14:27 +1000 (EST)
From: RYANPH@mrl.dsto.gov.au (Philip FX Ryan)
Subject: 1 or 2 line descriptions of programs - please send to me
I am volunteering to coordinate a better database of the files on the
info-mac archives.
I have extensively used the SIMTEL-20 archives of IBM-PC stuff, and have
also used the CICA archives of Windows stuff. Both of these have one-line
descriptions of the files, including the filename, size, upload date.
When trying to search the all-files.txt list of files one gets no more
information than the filename. Granted that PC filenames are more limited
than are mac filenames, but it would still be nice to have more info.
Therefore, if you think that it would be a good idea to have a better
database description of the files, please say so.
I would envisage (say) an 80 character limit to the description, so that
one could get a mainframe or micro search program to search for all
occurrances of, for example, 'deskjet', and get something like the
following:
info-mac/Utilities/Printing/hpdj-31.hqx 74567 930515
Printer driver for HP Deskjet and Laserjet series, freeware
It could be done on one line, which would make a VAX or UNIX searching
program's job a bit easier, but I feel that that could be limiting. (If it
was one line, then it would be a simple matter of using the 'simdir' series
of programs used for searching the SIMTEL-20 archives' directories on a
variety of platforms.)
To get it going it would require lots of people to send me their short
descriptions of the programs. It would also require that authors write
short descriptions when submitting their stuff to the archives.
I am willing to put the time in to compile such a list - are there people
out there willing to describe the 5 or 10 programs that they have obtained
>From the archives and use regularly?
----- Open discussion invited, either email or via this digest -------
----- If you think that it is a good idea, send me your suggestions --
----- (and any program descriptions) ---------------------------------
Phil Ryan
Melbourne, Australia
email: ryanph@mrl.dsto.gov.au
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Date: Mon, 17 May 93 16:48:32 -0400
From: mikeg@endgame.gsfc.nasa.gov
Subject: 4D (Q)
I have a user (who is not a mac user :-( ) that has
a data base file created with 4th Dimension. Is there anything
that can translate it to his IN-compatible computer?
Thanks,
Mike mikeg@asylum.gsfc.nasa.gov
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 09:13:29 PDT
From: cmartini@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
Subject: [ANS] ZiffNet/Mac Software
Your defenses of the "exclusive software" concept are eloquent and well-
thought-out. And, while this may bring me extreme flames from more
die-hard hackers, I applaud your determination to abide by your legal
agreement re Net distribution.
Having said that, and recognizing the flux in software licensing agreements,
I wonder if this "subware" distribution method is:
a) entirely legal, and
b) at all enforceable.
I expound--
Legally, how can anyone (Ziff/Net, in this case) grant licensees the rights
to further distribute copies of software, and at the same time restrict their
methods of ditribution? Can I get "Gates does Windows" and run off 500
floppies, then give them away at a computer store? Is this any different
>From letting 500 users download it on a private BBS I happen to run?
You might draw the analogy of a book...Say I buy _Jurassic Park_ (can't
wait for the movie), and, having read it, I have every right to give that
book to anyone I choose. Standard copyright notices forbid me to broadcast,
publish, or duplicate the book.
But, by allowing *some* distribution of software (ie, to friends),
Ziff/Net has allowed me to duplicate the software. If I u/l it, am I
"publishing" it? Or am I just duplicating it, lots of times?
I'm not saying we should flout licensing agremments just because there may
be questions about them. I'm just continuing a thread...maybe we on the Net
can investigate this whole "software licensing" issue while the lawyers
sit on their briefs... :)
btw, the preceeding posting is copyright 1993 Epical Systems Corporation, and
may not be reproduced, retransmitted, faxed, copied, folded, spindled or
mutilated, without the express written consent of the Publisher...unless,
or course, you really want to. ;-)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 14:47:02 GMT
From: gurgle@netcom.com (Pete Gontier)
Subject: Any good editors for programming on the Mac?
> I'm looking for a good editor (comparable to Sun's textedit,
> Brief,etc.) to use on a Mac. Is there any good tool out there (free
> preferrably) w/o purchasing a compiler environement (i.e. ThinkC)?
BBEdit 2.3 was recently posted. It's the best editor I've ever used,
and I've used plenty.
I hear also that an editor called Alpha is good for Emacs buffs.
Alpha may have been posted to sumex, as well.
(By the way, the THINK C environment is great, but I wouldn't ever
buy it for its text editor. That's not its focus, so of course it's
not the best editor it can be. There are much better free/cheap
alternatives, incl. the ones I've suggested here.)
--
Pete Gontier // EC Technology // gurgle@netcom.com
Microsoft Windows: "like putting lipstick on a chicken"
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 MAY 93 16:46 GMT
From: giacanelli@vs3te5.bo.infn.it
Subject: Any good editors for programming on the Mac? (A)
>Date: Sat, 15 May 1993 10:29:30 PDT
>From: Steven_S._Kang.ESCP10@xerox.com
>Subject: Any good editors for programming on the Mac?
>
>All,
>
>I'm looking for a good editor (comparable to Sun's textedit, Brief,etc.) to
>use
>on a Mac. Is there any good tool out there (free preferrably) w/o purchasing
a
>compiler environement (i.e. ThinkC)? Thanks.
>-Steve
Hi,
IMHO.... get ALPHA immediately!! It was at Info-Mac in /app directory,
I don't know now where it's been moved. I think that 5.31 is the latest
version.
- Good, excellent text editor
- All re-configurable using TCL scripts (you can even change the menus)
- C, C++, Pascal, TeX modes/environnements with a lot of macros
- The shareware fee (25 $) entitles you for *ALL* future versions
- You can create keyboard macros
- You can place marks in the text and recall them using a
pull-down menu
- You can save text in Mac/MPW/IBM format
Greetings,
Federico Giacanelli
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 16 May 93 21:40:20 PDT
From: jbthoo@ucdavis.edu (John Thoo)
Subject: Any good editors for programming on the Mac? (R)
On 15 May 1993 <Steven_S._Kang.ESCP10@xerox.com> wrote:
> I'm looking for a good editor (comparable to Sun's textedit, Brief,etc.) to
> use
> on a Mac. Is there any good tool out there (free preferrably) w/o purchasing
a
> compiler environement (i.e. ThinkC)? Thanks.
> -Steve
Steve, without hesitation, I recommend Alpha 5.31 (at sumex-aim).
--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <jb2@math.ucdavis.edu>
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 15:10:05 EDT
From: tfoley@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: AppleWorks <-> Macintosh
I translated a bunch of AppleWorks files from my old IIgs to my Mac a couple
of years ago and I just saved them onto 3.5" floppies in ASCII format - it
was a real pain because my IIgs didn't have a hard drive and only had one
3.5" floppy drive.
If you are in a similar situation or if you don't have access to a 3.5" drive,
I would suggest the direct, although environmentally unfriendly approach of
printing out copies of whatever you want from your Apple II and then scanning
it into a Mac with some sort of OCR software - this seems like a fairly crude
but effective solution. Good Luck.
Todd Foley
tfoley@athena.mit.edu
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 19:47:15 +0200
From: bnhirsch@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il (David L. Hirschberg)
Subject: CA-Cricket Graph question
Dear Net,
Does Computer Associates have any kind of E-mail? I bought a copy of
Cricket Graph 1.0.1 and have a few questions. I found out the rep here
specializes more in selling the software than in supporting it. Most
companies have E-mail support theses days so the distance is not som much
of the problem.
Here are some initial questions from one day's use:
1. How do you print more than 1 graph per page? The old version had this
feature when you chose print and had several graphs open.
2. How do you copy from one spreadsheet to another? I opened 2 that I had
inported as text from excel. I could copy but I could not paste from one
to the other.
3. I thought that the new version could read Excel spreadsheets without
converting them to text. Am I wrong?
Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, David
bnhirsch@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il
------------------------------
Date: 17 May 1993 13:55:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Peter Jorgensen <PJORGENSEN@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU>
Subject: Can't we keep it clean? (R)
Recently, Steve Satre rightly questioned the use of profanity directed at
a personal level. He wrote:
>In INFO-MAC V11, #87 (Apr 23), Nick Rothwell <cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk>
>writes about the Outbound vs. Powerbook:
>
>> Excuse me, but you're logic's f*cked. Just because...
>
>Gee, hard to figure out what the "*" stands for.
>How about keeping things a bit more civilized, friendly, clean, etc?
>
>-Steve Satre
I would add that it disturbs me as much that the author doesn't know the
difference between possessive and the contraction of a pronoun and a verb.
The statement in question means, "Excuse me, but you are logic is..." I
assume the author meant "Excuse me, by your logic is ..."
Perhaps computers really are allowing us to become dumber, but we can at
least run our text through a grammar checker! ;)
Peter Jorgensen. Colgate University Research & Instructional Computing Spec
Mac/DOS/VMS consultant, PMDF Postmaster, HyperTalker
--Boundary (ID +K5ebLEjiZZR/RAaJmPj8g)--
--Boundary (ID wVMd6UFaG1fxX3nwaInyPQ)--
------------------------------
Date: 18 May 1993 15:04:19 -0700 (MST)
From: wentzel@asgard.lpl.Arizona.EDU (Tom Wentzel)
Subject: Canon BubbleJet Ink Cartridge equivalent to Stylewriter II (Q)
Dear Info-Maccers,
I know that the ink cartridge for the Apple Stylewriter I is equivalent
to the Canon BubbleJet BC-01 ink cartridge. Could anyone tell me what
the model number is of the Canon BubbleJet ink cartridge which is
equivalent to the ink cartridge used by the StyleWriter II?
A call to my campus computer store where I bought my StyleWriter II
brought the auditory equivalent of a blank stare. A call to Canon's toll-
free Help Desk (1-800-423-2366) brought incantations of a proprietory
agreement with Apple preventing them from disclosing the information.
(So why does everyone know about the BC-01/StyleWriter I equivalency?)
A search of past Info-Mac Digests brought no answer either, though I
could have sworn I saw it mentioned here a few months ago, back when
the StyleWriter II was the talk of the town.
If you have the answer handy, please E-mail me. If I receive diverse
opinions, or if I have requests to share the answer, I can post a summary.
Thanks much-ly!
Tom Wentzel wentzel@asgard.lpl.arizona.edu
------------------------------
Date: 18 May 1993 17:29:47 -0500
From: "Marc Leroux" <Marc_Leroux@ultryx.com>
Subject: Columbus Mac User Group
Many thanks to:
Scott Kovatch
Fritz Anderson
Gabriel Schuyler
K.David Hawksworth
Patrick Limbach
who all helped in pointing me in the right direction and helped me find a
local user group.
Thanks folks
Marc Leroux
Marc_Leroux@ultryx.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 10:55:25 EDT
From: bouldin@anvil.nrl.navy.mil
Subject: Comment on IIvi cancelation
The IIvi was cancelled quickly. From the mac-facts file in /report/ here is
a graph of the lifetimes of discontinued Macs:
128.00 ****************************
512.00 *******************
512ke ***********
Plus **********************************************************
SE *******************************************
Clsc **************
LC *****************
II **********************************
IIx *************************
IIvi *******
IIcx *******************
IIsi ****************************
IIci *****************************
Quad700 **************
Quad900 *******************
PB100 **********
PB140 **********
PB170 **********
The lifetimes are in months. There have been 21 macs that are no longer made,
while there are 20 currently in production, and I am not counting the new
servers.
The comments from the data: I find the Mac product line to be very confusing,
and I think the "general public" would find it so, as well. IMHO, the entire
product line should be reorganized and simplified. When apple cannot raise
the technological sophistication of their machines, they now seem to like to
introduce 3 or 4 "distinguishable" models that interpolate between existing
machines. I think the rapid demise of the IIvi was because it was that type
of machine.
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 15 May 1993 22:12:09 -0700
From: Robert Lenoil <lenoil@catalogic.com>
Subject: Connecting PC to an Appleshare server
>I'm fairly sure that this cannot be done, but here goes: is there any way for
>a PC to be added to an EtherTalk network which has an Appleshare server and
>to then be able to access the server?
This is quite possible. AppleShare was designed from the outset to support
PCs. I should know - I cowrote AppleShare PC, which was Apple's AppleShare
client software for PCs. It supported PC LocalTalk and Ethernet cards from
various vendors. With AppleShare PC, you mounted the server volume using a
PC version of the Macintosh Chooser, afterwhich the AppleShare server
looked just like another drive to DOS. You could also connect to
LaserWriters (and ImageWriters too, for you history fans); you could send
PostScript from applications that supported it, or the software would make
the LaserWriter appear as if it were a standard dot matrix printer
connected to the PC's parallel port.
About two years ago, Apple decided it was more important to manufacture
Macintoshes than PC LocalTalk cards, so it sold off the PC stuff to
Farallon, who improved the software and now sell it as PhoneNet PC, which
also is included with their latest version of Timbuktu for PCs. Apple,
having recently introduced the Apple Workgroup Servers and realizing once
again that PC access is important, has licensed back the improved Farallon
code and offers it as AppleTalk Connection for PCs, or something like that.
Cooperative Printing Solutions (COPS) might also have a product, but I
believe you'll find the Farallon/Apple products better (I read a review to
that effect, but don't remember where, so you'll just have to take my
[biased] word for it).
Now aren't you glad you asked the net rather than trusting your hunch that
it couldn't be done? I hope this helps your friend and his accountant.
Regards,
Robert Lenoil
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 18:45:29 UTC+0100
From: Jos\i Luis Mar\mn <marin@cc.unizar.es>
Subject: Connecting PC to AppleShare server (A & Q)
We have a problem pretty similar to that of
McKinley. We just bought a fast PC clone, and here on
campus there's only Macs, all of them networked with
AppleTalk protocol.(Through both LocalTalk and EtherTalk
hardware). What we want is just to have access to our group's
LaserWriter II NT, which is connected to the Appletalk
through standard LocalTalk wiring. We have campus licenses
for a program from Apple that does just this, and also accesses
AppleShare servers from a PC: it's called AppleSharePC v.
2.01. It's probably old-dated but does the job.
We encountered this problem configuring the
software: We know the program works all right with Apple's
card LocalTalkPC (which connects to LocalTalk wiring), but
we can't make it run with the EtherLink III card.(3Com509,
ISA bus) The program only has drivers for the older
EtherLink II, so it tells you that for any other brand of
ethernet card you should use an O.D.I. (open data interchange)
driver. O.K., the card came with many drivers and there a
couple of drivers conforming to this ODI standard, under the
directories of Novell's drivers. We asked around and found out
about how this standard works.(correct us if we're wrong) You
first load in your PC a TSR called the Link Support Layer,
usually named LSL.COM. Then you load the ODI driver for
the specific card, in our case 3C509.COM or 3C509.SYS.
Then you start loading the network software. Basic hardware
parameters for these three pieces are stored in a text file
named NET.CFG. Our problem is, if we use the LSL.COM
>From Apple and the ODI driver from Novell, the PC hangs
right after loading the driver. If we use the LSL.COM and the
ODI driver both from Novell, we can go on further loading the
AppleShare programs (the AARP and AppleTalk protocol,
etc.) but when the program actually tries to reach the server it
hangs.(to be precise, it's ashare.exe that hangs). We really
don't know how to configure the NET.CFG file, so we don't
know if this is the problem or there's some kind of
incompatibility we haven't accounted for. Help!
We are making all tries with a clean config.sys and
autoexec.bat, and we know for sure that there's an AppleShare
v.2 server running on the network, accessible through the
ethernet. The card works OK with Telnet and FTP software.
We also would appreciate someone giving us some internet e-
mail address for tech assistance from 3Com, if there is any.
The documentation of the card only included Fax numbers.
PS: By the way, does anyone know of a Mail Digest
oriented to the PC similar to this one?
Jose L. Marin
Pedro J. Martinez
marin@cc.unizar.es
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 16:59:18 PDT
From: Brian R. Gaeke <brg@CERF.NET>
Subject: Demo of claris resolve? nisus? wordperfect?
Can someone tell me where I can find demos of these products?
thnx.
Brian
p.s. I want to see if they are really better than MS Word and Excel.
--
Brian Gaeke, The Dimensional Gate Company Internet E-Mail: brg@cerf.net
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 14:24:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: JIMS@SERVAX.fiu.edu (Jim Schenk)
Subject: Desktop files (Q)
Hello,
I have a question about the desktop files (Desktop DB, Desktop DF, etc)
in System 7.0. Where exactly is the information stored that determines
where the icons and windows appear on the screen?
In other words, if I start up my Mac, then open a window or two and
move a couple of icons around, then shut down, the Mac remembers these
changes so that the next time I start up, it looks the same. In which
file(s) is that information stored? I know its in one or more of the
Desktop files, but does anyone have more detailed information about the
role of each one of them?
The reason I ask is that I'm using RevRdist to set up a Mac training lab,
and I've got it configured so that any extra files that students create
are deleted upon restart, and any files that students trash are restored
>From the server. However, we would like to have it so that the window and
icon positions remain constant from one class to the next.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Jim
----- End forwarded message
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 16 May 93 21:41:51 PDT
From: jbthoo@ucdavis.edu (John Thoo)
Subject: Emaiil address for Symantic? (R)
On 15 May 1993 Fergus Sullivan <FSULLIVN@vax1.tcd.ie> wrote:
> Does anyone have an email address for Symantic Tech Support? I need to
update
> my Emergency Disk to work with an LC III. (Old version with system 7.0
ain't
> much good).
Fergus, try <norton.tech@applelink.apple.com>.
--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <jb2@math.ucdavis.edu>
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 14 May 93 13:49:32 EDT
From: David Virga <virgad@CC.ims.disa.mil>
Subject: Error -39 Wierdness
I've been experiencing a problem that I haven't been able to pin down. Every
so often, an application program will come up with an error code of -39 when I
try to launch it. System Errors 7.0.1 says that "-39" is a File System error
called "eofErr", with description "End of file; no additional data in the
format". The only way I know of to recover from this is to reinstall the
application program file. This has happened to such programs as BBEdit,
TeachText, cc:Mail and WordPerfect Office Notebook - namely, programs which I
usually keep active in the background while I'm doing other things.
Disinfectant 3.2 gives my system a clean bill of health.
My amateur analysis is that some application (or the (gasp!) System??) is
corrupting other open application files on my hard drive, or messing up their
active images in memory in such a way as to cause another application to
clobber itself in a specific way.
I have no strong evidence as to a specific application causing the problem,
but
if pressed, my hunch is one of my TCP/IP programs - TurboGopher 1.0.5 or
NCSA/Telnet 2.5. The problem seems to occur after I've been perusing the
Internet with either or both of these. Again, this hunch is based only on a
barely-scientific SWAG.... And since the problem doesn't occur regularly, an
init/cdev isolation process would take weeks to months. So I ask...
Has anybody else experienced this phenomenon? Any clues as to the cause? Any
suggestions for easier recovery?
I have a Q700 20/205, S7.0.1 Tuned 1.1.1 MacTCP 1.1
aTdHvAaNnKcSe!
Dave
virgad@cc.ims.disa.mil
------------------------------
Date: 18 May 93 17:22:39 GMT
From: gislil@rhi.hi.is (Gisli Leifsson)
Subject: Fax no. or e-mail addr of MacroMedia?
The subject line says it all. Does anyone know the e-mail address or the
fax number? I would like to use that instead of their phone number, which
I have, because I'm pretty far away from 'em.
Gisli
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 10:53:54 -0500
From: "Tom Wilson" <wilsont@fedc04.fed.ornl.gov> (Tom Wilson)
Subject: File Creater Type List
Does anyone have a fairly comprehensive list of file creator types which
includes most of the popular Mac software applications?
Thanks in advance.
Tom Wilson Voice: (615) 574-3927
Oak Ridge National Laboratory FAX: (615) 576-7926
Bldg. 9201-2, MS 8072
Oak Ridge, TN 37831-8072
<wilsont@fedc04.fed.ornl.gov>
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 11:48:12 EDT
From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Subject: Font conversion utils?
Can anyone point me to a Mac/PC utility that will convert fonts, say
TT fonts from Mac to Windows?
Thx,
Steve
--
| Steve Portigal, Dep't of CIS, University of Guelph, Guelph, ON, N1G 2W1 |
| email: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Phone: (519) 824-4120 ext 3580 |
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 20:46:21 -0400
From: ag311@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carol Conti-Entin)
Subject: Fund-raising Software Recommendations Needed
A large non-profit organization I help needs a good fund-raising program,
the kind that can track multiple gifts per donor over multiple years and
generate many different reports on user-selected subsets of the data.
The Director of Development would prefer a Mac program. She may be stuck
with her SE (2.5M RAM, 20M hard disk, System 6.0.7) for awhile longer,
so the program would have to run on it (at least initially). The ability
to convert (or pay for the conversion of) the existing PC Q&A 3.0 data-
base records is *highly* desirable.
What fund-raising software does your organization use? What are its
pros and cons, price, quality of support, etc.? If you evaluated other
packages, what made you decide against the others?
Thanks very much for your advice!
--
Carol Conti-Entin 216-561-8720
2878 Chadbourne Road Shaker Heights, OH 44120-2215
Free-Net: ag311 Internet: ag311@cleveland.freenet.edu
from CompuServe: >INTERNET: ag311@cleveland.freenet.edu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 21:40:44 EDT
From: bouldin@anvil.nrl.navy.mil
Subject: Guest connection rejected at this time. Try again later. (C)
I understand about limited bandwidth. I understand about the necessity to
limit
the number of FTP processes at any given time. However, could we have a more
informative message? I never know if anonymous FTP is just turned off at
certain hours of the day (entirely reasonable) or if the limit has been
reached on anonymous FTP processes.
Thanks.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 13:16:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Read my MIPS, no new VAXes..." <JORGE@vax1.bemidji.msus.edu>
Subject: Handling resources in Think C... (Q)
I hope that someone out there is will be able to help me with the following:
My first question is regarding resources. In my program I have a bunch of
defaults into a bunch of STR resources, what would be the easiest way to
change
those defaults from within the application after the user enters the new
values?
My second question has to do with converting string to numbers and numbers to
string when the numbers are float. I know how to do it in Think Pascal using
the convertion routines in SANE and converting a real to an extended and
back.
This allowed me in the past to format output with no problems. The problem I'm
having is that there are no C routines to change from float to extended and
back (I might be overlooking them). I hope this makes sense...
I hope you can help, it will be well appreciated..
Jorge Fraser
Bemidji State University
Bemidji, MN
jorge@vax1.bemidji.msus.edu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 14:54:25 CST
From: y785001@FCU.edu.tw \%\f\:\^\%\%\R\(\t\?\' \%\f\:\^\%\%\R\(\t\?\' (\t\?\'
(\%\f\:\^\%|\%\R \(\t\?o\'^)
Subject: Help! Where is Thread Manager Extension?
Dear netters,
I wonder if someone who can help me find Thread Manager extension from Apple?
I know it's somewhere in ftp.apple.com. Thanks in advance!
Richard Chuo
---------------------------------
e-mail: y785001@fcusqnt.fcu.edu.tw
==================================
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 18:04:35 GLT
From: CBDZ06BN%GRTHEUN1.BITNET@FRMOP11.CNUSC.FR
Subject: HP ScanJet IIc vs. LaCie's new scanner, + NEC's 95F printer.
I plan on purchasing a flatbed color scanner, which will either be the HP
ScanJet IIc or the new LaCie Silverscanner II. Has anybodyhad any experience
and/or knowledge on either to provide me with his/her feedback? Also, has HP
shipped the TWAIN driver that lets you scan through Photoshopyet?
Lastly, I will also buy a printer which will more likely be NEC's
Silentwriter 95F. Any opinions on that too will be greatly appreciated.
You may respond directly to cbdz06bn@grtheun1.bitnet, if you wish. Thanks
a lot.
Niko.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 15:57:00 +1000
From: c.mclaughlin@uws.edu.au (Colin McLaughlin)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #103
At 7:56pm 16/5/93 -0700, The Moderators wrote:
>Date: Fri, 14 May 93 15:48:56 EDT
>From: klwhite@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kurt White)
>Subject: [*] dart.cpt.hqx
>
>DART (Disk Archive/Retrieval Tool) is an application that
>enables you to duplicate Macintosh, Lisa, Apple II, or MS-DOS
>disks, save disk images, and create disks from image files.
>DART 1.5 can read disk image files in DART, DiskMaker, or Disk
>Copy format.
STUFF DELETED
(For more information, please refer to the
>DART User Manual.)
>
>[Archived as /info-mac/disk/dart-15.hqx; 161K]
The manual is in a strange format and is unopenable from word processsors.
Can anyone tell me what the type SIMA creator GEOL is and how I can RTFM
Colin McLaughlin c.mclaughlin@uws.edu.au 137.154.97.11
University of Western Sydney OZ Another MFZ
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 13:31:37 BST
From: bebb@ukfca1.sinet.slb.com (Malcolm Bebb)
Subject: Intercon's Wordlink Program
ED HOLZER <wk02107@worldlink.com> writes:
>Intercon has an INTERNET access program and service for the Mac called
>"worldlink"
I'd like to know more about the program - is it proprietory for their service,
or could it be used elsewhere? Anyone supply any info?
I believe some Intercon people read the digest...
Thanks
Malcolm bebb@ukfca1.sinet.slb.com mbebb@cix.compulink.co.uk
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 10:13:02 +0000
From: k.c.quick%open.ac.uk@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (Kevin Quick)
Subject: Laserwriter II Error Codes.(Q)
Does anybody have a list of the errors on the II series printers that are
shown by sequencing the led's.
I ask this question because I was called to a faulty printer which showed
two different sequences and it would have helped our maintaince engineers
if we could have defined the fault.
Kevin Quick
Computer Support Engineer
Faculty of Technology
The Open University
Mail by Eudora 1.3.1
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 11:13:42 +0100
From: karl@uz.kuleuven.ac.be (Karl Pottie)
Subject: laserwriter Pro 600 and Printserver
We bought a laserwriter Pro 600 recently. The new laserwriter driver
requires you to press a 'setup' button, which automatically configures the
driver according to the printer's features (number of trays, 600 DPI, etc
...). This works fine if the printer is directly on Appletalk.
However, we use the Appleshare 3.0 printserver which captures the printer.
I also installed the new driver onto the print-server and clicked the
setup. No problem. But if a user selects the spooler and then clicks on the
setup, the Mac complains it can't connect to the printer to determine it's
features. Consequently, the user can't use the second paper tray.
Is there any solution for this problem ?
----------
Karl Pottie
Macintosh Consultant for the University Hospitals of Leuven, Belgium
karl@uz.kuleuven.ac.be
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 12:50:01 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Licensing agreements
It's entirely unclear if standard licensing agreements for
commercial software are entirely legal and completely
enforceable (although the Software Publisher's Association
certainly thinks they're enforceable). In fact, I'd say that no
licensing agreement is necessarily entirely legal or completely
enforceable until tested by suit. Then again, I'm no lawyer and
I freely give my work away to any individual who wants to use
it for non-commercial, non-profit purposes.
Before even bothering with lawyers, I think it's worth thinking
about if you want to violate someone else's wishes. If a friend
tells me something and asks me not to tell anyone else, it's
rude to go spreading that information around. I know a lot of
confidential information that I don't put in TidBITS or tell
anyone, even if I haven't signed an NDA, because to do so would
violate a trust built up by cooperation. The more we go about
doing that, the less others will be interested in cooperating
with us, and the world will be a poorer place for it. That's
how I view all these agreements (and I use the word "agreement"
in its normal sense - an "agreement" between two people).
Only once that I know of has someone broken my "licensing"
agreement in TidBITS by plagiarizing an article. Tonya (whose
article it was), I, and the editor of the user group newsletter
the article appeared in were all extremely distressed. That
newsletter had always been very good about using TidBITS
articles with full credit, but someone decided to take a
shortcut and instead of reviewing a program, he merely edited
out all of the personal parts in a review Tonya wrote for
TidBITS. Who knows if our agreement is legal or enforceable; I
certainly didn't explore that. All I know is that that person
for no good reason broke a level of trust that we have always
had with user group newsletters. I'm certainly not going to
refuse to allow all user group newsletters to reprint articles
>From now on, and since the editor of this one was equally as
horrified when he found out, I merely asked for an apology in
print from the plagiarist. But if this sort of thing became the
rule rather than the exception... and all because this person
had to steal what was already free as long as a very simple
condition was met (crediting the author and TidBITS).
cheers ... -Adam
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 15:54:55 EDT
From: grant@itd.nrl.navy.mil (William Grant)
Subject: Losing Application Mapping on a regular basis
Does anyone recognize the following problem? If you did, have
you had any luck diagnosing it?
The following symptoms occur:
The system starts responding that the application used to
create this file is unknown.
Icon and kind is often CORRECT at this point.
This occurs several times a month.
Rebuilding the desktop corrects this.
The configuration is Mac IIci, 8MB RAM, Sys7.0.1, Tune-up
1.1.1, more extensions and cdev than I can count. (I know this could
be the problem, but I'm having a little trouble tracking it down.)
I know that resetting the desktop will correct the symptom,
but I find it hard to believe that this should be necessary on a
weekly basis.
Please reply direct to me at "grant@itd.nrl.navy.mil" and
I will summarize for info-mac.
Liam Grant, NRL, Code 5541, Washington, DC 20375-5337, (202) 767-0552
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 10:10:04 EDT
From: stngiam@Athena.MIT.EDU
Subject: Mac <-> IBM RS/6000
We have been trying for some time to make a direct serial connection
between Macs (SE/30, IIci, IIcx) and IBM RS/6000 workstations. As you
can guess, since I'm making a post here, we haven't been successful. We
have tried null modem and straight-through cables, and we have followed
IBM's instructions for configuring tty's but still no luck.
Has anyone been able to accomplish this before? Any pointers would be
appreciated (even ones that tell me I didn't follow the instructions
properly).
Shih Tung
Chem E
Best l'il Tech School
on the Charles
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 8:23:57 PDT
From: Rick_Sutcliffe@faith.twu.ca (Rick Sutcliffe)
Subject: MacEqn
MacEqn
A number of years ago, I bought an equation editor for word processing
called MacEqn (that's actually a sigma rather than an 'E') from a company
called Software for Recognition Technologies in Rochester NY. I later
upgraded to version 3.0, and have happily chugged along ever since. Now it
is incompatible with Suitcase 2.1.3 and/or system 7.1 (infinite disk access
if you try to use it) I was able to call it up once by taking it out of its
suitcase, but even that does not work any more.
1. The telephone number in the manual has belonged to someone else for
years.
2. Mac's Place and MacWarehouse have never heard of the product or the
company
So what next? Can anyone out there either
a. point me back to the vendor if it still exists
b. suggest an alternative equation editor
P.S. I use Nisus.
Rick Sutcliffe rsutc@twu.ca
Rick Sutcliffe-Trinity Western University Langley B.C. Canada-rsutc@twu.ca
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 10:21:46 PDT
From: Jeff Richards <jeff@aesyvr1.pwc.aes.doe.ca>
Subject: Macintosh Revealed
In the series of books "Macintosh Revealed" by a fellow called Chernikoff(sp?)
there is an application developed called MiniEdit. The source code is printed
in the book - but does anyone know if it is available via ftp from anywhere?
--------
jeff@aesyvr1.pwc.aes.doe.ca
------------------------------
Date: 18 May 1993 08:56:04 -0500
From: "Marc Leroux" <Marc_Leroux@ultryx.com>
Subject: Mac SCSI Ethernet access
Does anyone have experience with the SCSI ethernet adaptors that are
available for Mac's? We are considering some for our Powerbooks and I
was wondering what the performance of these was like. How does the
speed compare to hardware boards? What's the effect on overall system
response?
Any and all replys would be appreciated.
Marc Leroux
Marc_Leroux@ultryx.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 14:07:19 EDT
From: davist@mercury.umis.upenn.edu
Subject: MacWrite Pro Tables (Q)
Does the MacWrite Pro table feature allow (a) sorting of rows, (b)
designating the first row as a "header" to print on each page, (c)
different justification and other formatting for each row, (d) variations
in borders?
Tad Davis
davist@mercury.umis.upenn.edu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 14:41:25 +0200
From: kaj.hejer@svit.uio.no
Subject: Mindmaps
Hi!
I need a program for writing/drawing mindmaps on a mac. I'm interested in both
public domain and commercial programs! Thanks in advance for all answers!
Kaj Hejer
(Kaj.Hejer@svit.uio.no)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 14:41:25 +0200
From: kaj.hejer@svit.uio.no
Subject: Mindmaps
Hi!
I need a program for writing/drawing mindmaps on a mac. I'm interested in both
public domain and commercial programs! Thanks in advance for all answers!
Kaj Hejer
(Kaj.Hejer@svit.uio.no)
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 10:42:33 +0100
From: karl@uz.kuleuven.ac.be (Karl Pottie)
Subject: Mitsubishi Video Copy Processor
We've got a strange beast over here: a Mitsubishi Video Copy Processor,
model P7IU. No documentation available. The thing seems to have a parallel
port for an MsDos machine. Does anybody know if it can be hooked up to a
Mac, and if so, where to get the driver software ?
----------
Karl Pottie
Macintosh Consultant for the University Hospitals of Leuven, Belgium
karl@uz.kuleuven.ac.be
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 07:58:46 -0700 (MST)
From: Bruce Long <bruce@asu.edu>
Subject: Need a pretty Mono-spaced font (A)
>I need a nice mono-spaced font for displaying table data in
>an environment where all I can do is set the font (no tabs).
The Adobe Type Set Value Pack ($39 from dealers such as MacZone)
contains 30 Adobe fonts plus ATM, a very nice deal included in the
package are two monospaced fonts: Letter Gothic (sans serif) and
Prestige Elite (serif).
Bruce Long
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 14:40:54 GMT
From: gurgle@netcom.com (Pete Gontier)
Subject: Need a pretty Mono-spaced font (commercial or otherwise) (A)
>> I need a nice mono-spaced font for displaying table data in
>> an environment where all I can do is set the font (no tabs).
>> Any suggestions for either commercial, freeware or shareware
>> would be appreciated. Also, if you have the skills, how about
>> a quote on creating a custom font (it there just aren't enough
>> pretty ones available at the present time?)
>There is a really good looking mono-spaced TrueType font included with
>SoftPC.
ftp to ics.uci.edu; look in /pub/mac/think-c/system/prog-fonts*
--
Pete Gontier // EC Technology // gurgle@netcom.com
Microsoft Windows: "like putting lipstick on a chicken"
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 9:33 GMT
From: Big Nose <LAWA%IAPE.AFRC.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: New Directory Structure on sumex
Bill,
I get the digest by FTP from the archive. I must say I like your touch!
Good move to relocate the digests to a new directory and then tell
everyone in the digest after you'd done it. Took me a while to realise
why my automated file transfer wasn't working anymore.
Pre-emptive anouncements in future, perhaps?
[Ops! Sorry about that. We will try to remember in the future. Hopefully,
we won't be moving the digest again anytime soon! - Gordon]
Andy Law
( LAWA @ IAPE.AFRC.AC.UK Big Nose in Edinburgh )
P.S. Please don't flame me everyone. I'm not critiscising Bill. I
appreciate the job he does as much as the next man. I'm just trying to
make the world a happier place.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 12:09:41 PDT
From: "Daniel Buchan" <dan@gorilla.dickinson.edu>
Subject: Nuclear plant simulation
Has anyone come across a nuclear power plant simulation? It can be shareware
or
commercial. Send replies direct to me. Thanks!
Dan
dan@gorilla.dickinson.edu
------------------------------
Date: TUE, 18 May 93 07:25:29 EDT
From: Louis_Bergeron%UQAT.UQuebec.CA@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Older softwares to give away
I have some older softwares to give away to schools ou universities lacking
the
money to buy them. I have Multiplan, Excel 1.5 and Word 1.0.5. These are
compatible with System 3.2 and works fine on older machines. I have heard in
MacUser that these programs could be welcomed. Also perhaps they could be
upgraded later to a more recent version by sending the original disks even if
the price would sometimes be the same as buying at the special educational
price. You must write directly to me at either:
l bergeron@uqat.uquebec.ca or louis bergeron@uqat.uquebec.ca
P.S. I hope I am not doing something illegal by giving away these softwares.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 05:28:55 GMT
From: jfranken@hkucc.hku.hk
Subject: PB 160 and QC
Has anybody out there had problems with their PB160?
After three months of tenderlovingcare of the machine,
the motor in the harddrive of my PB160 went blooey.
Wonderful. It is now being replaced.
Question: Given all the problems reported on this
board and others, and given the frantic pace of
new Apple product introductions, has Apple's QC
started to decline (as it did many years ago during
the heyday of the Apple II Plus and II/e)?
Views, please.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 17:34:29 -0400
From: kkirksey@world.std.com (Ken B Kirksey)
Subject: PC -> Mac DTP
Hola All,
Got some question relating to moving DTP type files from the PC to the Mac.
First some background: we compose our magazine on Macs using Quark,
Photoshop, and Illustrator. We send the completed magazine to our Service
Bureau as Quark documents on an optical disk. Our SB runs out 4 page
pre-imposed film from those documents.
We've traditionally recieved a number of ads as negatives, to be stripped
in at the printer. Since these ads are mostly being composed on PC based
DTP systems anyway, it would be more cost effective for our advertisers
(and us) to send us these ads on disk for us to place in Quark.
We've already had a few Mac user's send us ads like this, and it worked
fine.
Now, we're getting inquiries from people using PC based DTP systems. Which
leads me to a few questions:
1) Can I mount and read PC formated SyQuest or ISO 5.25" Opticals using
PC Exchange or Access PC? If not, is there any way to read these
PC formatted media on a Mac?
2) EPS and TIFF conversions. I'm aware of the PC->Mac TIFF AFE translator,
and I assume there's such an animal for PC->Mac EPS conversions.
Would these be all I need to convert PC->Mac TIFF and EPS files, or
are there pitfalls I should watch out for?
3) Will Quark for Mac read without any problem Quark for Windows files?
4) The Font Problem. Right now we have anyone sending us anything on
disk include all the screen and printer fonts they use in that document.*
How could we handle this with PC documents? Is there a way to convert
PC format Type 1 and TrueType fonts to Mac format?
(* No lectures on the legality/illegality of this please. We stick all
recieved fonts in a "Client Fonts" folder, and use them ONLY for
client ads. While this MAY violate the letter of the copyright,
it CERTAINLY does not violate the spirit.)
Well, I think that about covers it. Any help ya'll can provide will be
greatly appreciated.
Ken
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 14:01:33 +0200
From: Vecoven Frederic <U514303%BLIULG11.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Personal Laser Writer LS
Hello everyone,
I am looking for another driver for the personal laserwriter LS, shareware
or commercial. It should handle greytones correctly. If anyone has
informations
about that......
Thanks.
Frederic Vecoven (U514303@vm1.ulg.ac.be)
------------------------------
Date: 17 May 93 20:32:45 GMT
From: 9531sons@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Jamie Sonsini)
Subject: Ping for Macs?
I'm trying to locate a version of Ping that will work for a Macintosh
attached to an TCP/IP network. I've managed to find a version of Ping that
will work on AppleTalk networks, but haven't seen anything for TCP/IP.
Anyone know of such a critter? I'm attempting to find something that will
tell me whether a remote system is "reachable" (ie. are the lower levels of
the TCP/IP protocol stack working, even if the application can't seem to
reach the target). Seems like PING would be a good tool for that job.
Anyone know of such a program?
Thanks,
Jamie Sonsini
UC Santa Barbara
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 20:03 AST
From: "JESUS A. RODRIGUEZ" <J_RODRIGUEZ%RRPAD@UPR1.UPR.CLU.EDU>
Subject: Please network help....
5/17/93
Dear Info-Mac friends:
We have a network using FileSharing (System 7.1) using LocalTalk.
Also we have a Apple LaserWriter IIg in our network. There is a
new user who want to use a notebook for print and share files.
The notebook is a DEC 425SL. Only have two PCMCIA expansion slots.
Theres hardware and software that solve my problem?
Thanks in advance....
Jesus A. Rodriguez
j_rodriguez@rrpad.upr.clu.edu
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 16 May 93 23:54:08 PDT
From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: PortConnector 1.0 Posting
>The PortConnector(tm) software enables all your communication
>applications to employ CTB Connection Tools instead of modems or direct
>serial links: old applications can be used for communicating through
>X.25, TCP/IP, ISDN and any other network supported with a Connection
>Tool. I.e. you can connect to your office network using AppleTalk
>Remote Access though ISDN or TCP/IP, you can use WhiteKnight(tm) with
>ADSP, X.25, etc.
>PortConnector requires System 7.0 and better.
>See the ReadMe file included for details.
Seems to me there is one important piece of information missing from this
description...
**** Price! ****
At the very least, file descriptions should state whether the program is
freeware, shareware, or demo of a commercial product. We shouldn't have to
download the thing and read the readme file to find out.
Since it is from the makers of PortShare, I'd guess that it is a connect
time limited demo of a commercial product, but I don't know for sure.
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 May 93 13:56:09 edt
From: Maxwell Smart <SOELL@dickinson.edu> (Oliver Soell)
Subject: Printer on appletalk
Is there any way to prevent any random user printing on a networked laser?
I am not the administrator of this network; I can't install laseruser or
anything like that. This is a huge multizone network and I'd like to user a
printer without connecting it only when needed. However, I'd like it to be
networked and not connected serially so that some people can print to it. Is
there such a utility that can do these things? Does the AppleShare 3.0 Print
Server do any of this? Thanks
Oliver Soell
Dickinson College
soell@dickinson.edu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 MAY 93 15:38:17 GMT
From: EFE@V1.PH.QMW.AC.UK
Subject: Protest at IIvi cancellation - a comment
In IM 101 Lance Chun has a strong negative response to Frank Lechner's
protest at the instant demise of the IIvi.
Like Lance Chun, I have also watched some vintage Macs drop dramatically
in price, I too have an early IIci and a Plus, as well as an LCII that
now costs new exactly half of what I paid one year ago.
But I think the IIvi was a slightly special case: never even sold in the
USA, and looking out of place in the model lineup even when it was
introduced. Its rapid (3 months?) cancellation, like that of the
Quadra 900, does set some sort of record, and unlike Lance Chun I have
a lot of sympathy for those who bought it.
Eric Eisenhandler, Physics Department, Queen Mary and Westfield College,
Univ. of London EFE@V1.PH.QMW.AC.UK
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 13:18:05 MEZ
From: Andrew Maier <A8241GAI%AWIUNI11.EDVZ.UNIVIE.AC.AT@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: PS to EPS
Hallo out there
I hate asking this question because I presume it is a FAQ. Anyway here is the
question!
Is there a way to convert a Postscript file ( e.g. produced with the
LaserWriter printer driver) in an EPS which can be imported with XPress or
Freehand?
I hope somebody can help. Since I suppose that this is not a question of
general interest please write to me directly
Thanks Andrew a8241gai@awiuni11.edvz.univie.ac.at
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 16 May 93 23:53:17 EDT
From: Michael Kazlow <KAZLOWF%PACEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Request for Logic Font (R)
There are two sets of Fonts Computer Modern and Lucida Math that are
available from Y&Y (508) 371=3286. They should fit the needs of any
mathematician/scientist for logic or math oriented fonts. Y & Y created
these versions for use with Tex, but the postscript font should work on
any Mac with ATM. I just purhcased the Lucida Math font. Very nice.
$145 with academic discount.It contained:
Lucida Blackletter, Lucida Bright (Regular, Demi,Ita,Demi-Ita), Lucida Sans
(Regular, Dei, Ita, Demi-Ita), Lucida Sans Typewritter(Monospaced), Lucida
Arrows,Lucida Symbols, Lucida New Math Ita, and many many more.
The support from Y&Y was very good. One of the fonts that was sent had a
problem working with SuperATM (they sent an immediate fix). I was unhappy with
the underlining on a postscript printer (It was fine on a Personal Laserwriter
LS). They sent a new version with improved underlining. I reccommend the fonts
and the company very highly.
From the computer of: Michael Kazlow (Bitnet: KAZLOWF@PACEVM)
------------------------------
Date: 17 May 1993 17:24:12 -0500 (CDT)
From: "William M. Porter" <WMPORTER@Jetson.UH.EDU>
Subject: SCSI terminators (Q)
I'm helping a friend with a Mac Plus and an old Dataframe 20Mb hard
drive. She connects the drive to the Plus with the SCSI cable, which
plugs into one of the two ports in the back of the Dataframe. She
also has a terminator. Here are my questions:
1) Should the terminator go into the other port in the back of the
external drive? There are no other SCSI devices being used. The
answer to this question may seem painfully obvious, but when I came
to my friend, she had the SCSI cable plugged into the terminator,
and the terminator plugged into the drive, leaving the other port
open. This is how she got it from the person that sold her the Plus.
2) This raises the other question: Why is it possible to plug
something into the other end of the terminator? From the name, I
kind of expect a terminator to be a cap, a dead end. If you wanted
to add another SCSI device to the chain, wouldn't it be about as
easy to remove the terminator from external device #1 before
plugging in external device #2 as it would be simply to plug #2
into the terminator on #1? Then you wouldn't have to buy a terminator
for #2, or so it seems.
3) If a device is improperly terminated, WHAT HAPPENS?
Thanks. Please reply to me directly & I'll summarize for the Digest in
a day or two.
Will Porter / University of Houston
wmporter@jetson.uh.edu
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 1993 16:23:04 +0100
From: karl@uz.kuleuven.ac.be (Karl Pottie)
Subject: Snooper Works !
Snooper, the hardware diagnostic software, actually works ! We had a Mac
which started to crash at random intervals. Snooper revealed the mouse was
bad (though it seemed to function fine). We changed the mouse and the
crashes went away. If it were not for snooper, I'd probably still be
re-installing System and other software.
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 00:44:59 -0400
From: Scott E Maxwell <smaxwell@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: Speedometer records for '040
Do any friendly folks out there have any of the DayStar '040 accelerator
cards installed in their IIsi? If so could you create a Speedometer
record and post it to either sumex or mac.archive.umich.edu? I would
greatly appreciate it. I am thinking about upgrading my IIsi or buying
a Centris 650. So if anyone has some input on the DayStar accelerator
line I would appreciate it. The reason for DayStar is that I already
have the DualPortsi from Daystar, which has a slot that will accept
the DayStar accelerators with no muss or fuss. Rather stay within the
family. ;-) But if you have info on other accelerators that you
think are great, send away. Thanks.
Scott Maxwell
The University of Michigan
smaxwell@engin.umich.edu
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 17 MAY 93 15:30:55 GMT
From: EFE@V1.PH.QMW.AC.UK
Subject: Super Card Advice needed
In response to a request for SuperCard information, I would recommend
"Inside SuperCard" by Andrew Himes and Craig Ragland. It should be
included with every copy of SuperCard, as the 'official' documentation is
pretty hopeless. It is one of the best books of its type that I have used,
and for me turned despair into success. (For Microsoft-free zone types,
note that it's published by Microsoft Press.)
Eric Eisenhandler, Physics Department, Queen Mary and Westfield College,
Univ. of London EFE@V1.PH.QMW.AC.UK
------------------------------
Date: 16 May 93 22:47:15
From: brecher@husc8.harvard.edu (Jonathan Brecher)
Subject: The REAL story behind comp.sys.mac.scitech
[Followups-To: news.groups]
comp.sys.mac.scitech, currently in the CFV process, is being created for the
benefit of the proposer and the organization of which he is Treasurer. The
true purpose of this newsgroup was systematically concealed from the USENET
community by the proposer and never broached during any of the RFD/CFV
process. This duplicity calls into question the propriety of this CFV.
HISTORY: The CFV for comp.sys.mac.scitech was posted on 4/30 by Michael Duncan
following the requisite RFD period. The charter declared the new newsgroup as
"a newsgroup for the discussion of practical and innovative applications of
the Macintosh in a variety of scientific and engineering disciplines." Votes
for or against this newsgroup are to be sent to scitech@ra.nrl.navy.mil. Dr.
Duncan signed his CFV post as "Chairman, communications committee, MacSciTech"
SUMMARY OF THE RFD: The RFD period, as far as I could tell, was characterized
by, if anything, resounding indifference. Several people -- myself included
-- questioned what benefit this group would serve that was not being served by
the existing groups comp.sys.mac.programmer, comp.sys.mac.apps, and
sci.comp-aided. Furthermore, question was raised regarding why such a group
was needed, when there was little science-related discussion in the
comp.sys.mac.* groups and little traffic at all in sci.comp-aided. Dr. Duncan
asserted that the lack of traffic was a consequence of the lack of any group
dedicated to this subject, and with the creation of the newsgroup, the traffic
would be forthcoming.
COINCIDENCE? I recently received a packet of junk mail from an organization
named MacSciTech. It was sent to an address that could ONLY have been found
>From posts I made to the Net. Coincidentally, the Internet address for this
group is also scitech@ra.nrl.navy.mil, the same address as that used for the
CFV for comp.sys.mac.scitech.
Dr. Duncan's primary purpose in creating this newsgroup is to further the
interests of the organization MacSciTech, an orgainzation that is presumably
nonprofit (or its use of a MILNet computer would be a felony), but there is no
mention of any nonprofit status in the copious literature I didn't ask for.
Dr. Duncan in fact writes in part of the junk mail I received,
"So, what are the alternatives for a messaging system that would be
available to MacSciTech members? Well, one possibility would be to
set up a true bulletin board system (BBS) with connections to the
Internet and with dial-in capabilities. Unfortunately, such a
system would cost too much in material (hardware and software) and
time (someone to devote a lot of time to run it). Another
alternative would be to create a new news group in the NetNews
world at large. This would take advantage of a communications
structure that already exists and would cost MacSciTech nothing.
It would create a forum where information could be exchanged
between members, and, maybe more importantly, it would allow non-
MacSciTech members to become part of ongoing discussions. This is
something that would promote MacSciTech and, hopefully, insure that
the resulting NetNews board would stay viable." [Dr. Duncan then
proceeds to exhort members of MacSciTech to vote for the proposed
newsgroup.]
(I refer everyone to the concurrent discussion in news.groups about the
(im)propriety of soliciting votes.)
From this passage I think it is clear that Dr. Duncan wants to create this
group a) to serve as a discussion area for members of his organization, b) to
save his organization (of which he is also Treasurer, apparently), a
significant amount of money and time, and c) obtain free publicity for his
organization.
I think it also becomes clear that all of Dr. Duncan's previous handwaving
explanations for the necessity of this newsgroup have been specious. Not once
in the entire RFD period did he mention his ties to an organization with the
same name as the proposed newsgroup. Not once did he mention that he was
proposing this newsgroup with the specific intent to save his organization
money. In fact, not once has Dr. Duncan been candid about his motives at
all.
Anyone voting for the creation of comp.sys.mac.scitech should realize what
they are voting *for*, and be prepared to accept the consequences. USENET
lives by precedent, and precedents are hard to break. Is everyone prepared
for comp.sys.mac.bmug? comp.sys.mac.bcs? How about a group for each local
users group: comp.sys.mac.users-group.new-york? Perhaps comp.org.macscitech
would make more sense than granting a newsgroup in the comp.sys.mac.*
hierarchy to a single organization. Now, that that would be a group whose
creation I could support.
Again, all votes should be sent to scitech@ra.nrl.navy.mil with a clear
indication of your vote:
"Yes, I vote for the creation of comp.sys.mac.scitech"
or
"No, I vote against the creation of comp.sys.mac.scitech"
Remember that it is legal to change your vote, especially now that you know
what your vote really means.
Outraged,
jonathan brecher
brecher@husc.harvard.edu
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 18 May 93 11:47:27 +0200
From: Jay Rolls <jrolls@frg.bbn.com>
Subject: Touchbase Pro (in defense of...) (C)
Greg Friedman writes:
>I just got my TouchBase Pro upgrade and man, does it stink!
I also just received mine and had the exact opposite reaction.
> There are tons of cosmetic bugs. Progress dialogs don't draw
> correctly. The quickletter window opens larger than my largest
> screen. I can't get to the print button. All I can do is close
> the window.
I didn't notice any of these problems on my Mac.
> Cut and paste doesn't work! I can't cut text from one field and
> paste it into another! Give me a break!!!
Works fine for me!
> The main window is now divided into 3 separate views. There is no
> way to view all of the data that belongs to a contact at once. You
> have to use a popup to switch between the views! Some of us
> have large monitors for a reason...
You CAN view all fields at once. You can now configure what
appears in the top third of the window. If you show address
and phone info, then you can also show custom fields and notes
all in the same window.
Overall I was pleased with the upgrade. You can now view more
than one contact database at a time. You can copy and paste
whole contact entries from one file to another. They've added
a bunch more custom entry fields (8 text, 2 date, 2 number, &
4 checkbox), they've added a built in text editor that allows
one to generate form letters directly from the contact database.
They've added global search and replace. Permanent sorting can
now be done from within the application. Custom fields can be de-
signed to have pop-up choices. Compound search capabilities. And
you can add your initials to the Time/Date stamp (good for networked
applications). All in all not a shabby upgrade!!
Jay Rolls, Stuttgart, Germany
BBN Systems & Technology
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 17:51:59 -0800
From: bylsma@unixg.ubc.ca (Dieder B.)
Subject: Updater for FalconMC?
In the April issue of Inside Mac Games, there was a statement that there
was an updater for FalconMC. I have looked and can't seem to find it, and
Spectrum Holobyte has not informed me either...any ideas how, or where, I
can find it?
Thanks,
Dieder
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Date: Tue, 18 May 93 17:53:06 GMT
From: Michael Everson <EVERSON%IRLEARN.UCD.IE@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Worldscript keyboard interference
Hello,
I'm running British 7.1. I also have Hebrew, Arabic, Cyrillic, Greek,
and East European script systems running, as well as Armenian and
Georgian ones which I am testing. All of these seem to work
fine. I've yet to use a _real_ Worldscript-friendly application
but certainly I do not expect interference under the Roman system.
However... I've encountered a seriously irritating problem. Arrow
keys aren't behaving as they are supposed to! In Quark 3.1, for
instance, Command-Left-Arrow and Command-Right-Arrow no longer
move to the next word space. Command-Up-Arrow and Command-Down-
Arrow, however, DO move to the beginning of the previous or
following paragraph. Also, Command-Option-Arrow DOES move to
wherever it is supposed to while selecting text. This happens
under British, US, and US-System-6 keyboards.
Is it only me?
Michael Everson
School of Architecture, UCD; Richview, Clonskeagh; Dublin 14; E/ire
Phone: +353 1 706-2745 Fax: +353 1 283-8908 Home: +353 1 478-2597
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Date: Sun, 16 May 93 21:56:49 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: ZiffNet/Mac discussion
In Regards to your letter <199305170302.AA03252@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> disclaimer: my personal opinions follow, not a legal opinion.
Good for you.
> My $.02 in agreement with Steven T. Jones and Colin McLaughlin and in
> strong disagreement with Adam Engst, in particular with Mr. Engst's use
> and juxtaposition of the words "illegal and unethical" with respect to
> distribution of "Ziff exclusive software."
Sheesh, I'm not even going to give this semantic nonsense the
benefit of an argument.
I merely tried to clear up a confusion on the net as to the
appropriateness of distributing ZiffNet/Mac exclusive software.
Whether or not you wish to challenge the legal validity of
their license agreement, or hide behind some subjective view of
whether or not violating such a license agreement is or is not
ethical, the simple fact of the matter is that the license
agreement exists. Here's the license paragraph from the latest
utility:
# (c) 1993 Ziff-Davis Publishing Co., All rights reserved.
# You may NOT upload this utility to any other online service,
# network, or Bulletin Board. You may NOT make copies for any
# commercial purpose. This utility is not public domain or
# shareware. Distribution is limited to Ziff Communications
# online services and electronic publishing projects.
It seems pretty clear to me, and no matter what you want to say
about the legality and ethics of the situation, it is merely
good manners to abide by such an agreement. If you wish to
break the agreement, please do. Enjoy yourself. Just keep sumex
out of it.
My final point is that if somone creates something, or pays for
it to be created for some purpose, then that person gets to say
how that creation can be distributed. If you violate that
person's wishes, then you're at best a jerk and at worst in
violation of law. The net works by cooperation, not by petty
rhetoric.
This is my last posting on this topic; I have projects more
constructive than restraining myself from flaming to occupy my
time.
Adam Engst, TidBITS Editor
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 16:34:07
From: charlie.mingo@his.com (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: ZiffNet/Mac Software (c)
Jonathan Bauer <jhbauer@Panix.Com> writes:
> First: IMO Juxtaposing "illegal and unethical" is inappropriate.
> Or-the uploading of *Ziff exclusive
> software' to ftp sites _may_ be illegal, but, again depending
> on one's views, it may well be ethical.
Adam was asserting that it was both. There is nothing "inappropriate"
in that.
> Second: IMO it is a presumption for Mr. Engst to declare that
> because the Ziff licensing agreement forbids distribution of
> Ziff software other than on Ziffmac it is therefore illegal
> to do so.
Perhaps one should study a little copyright law before complaining
about others' "presumptions".
> I know of no judicial determination that the Ziff
> license agreement has any legal effect whatsover. Has Mr. Engst?
US copyright law gives the copyright holder (Ziff) the "exclusive right"
to control distribution of their works.
17 United States Code
SECT 106. Exclusive rights in copyrighted works
Subject to sections 107 through 120, the owner of copyright
under this title has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize any
of the following:
...
SECT 106(3) to distribute copies ... of the
copyrighted work to the public by sale or other transfer of ownership
...
No-one is allowed to distribute copyrighted software (be it "commercial"
or "Ziff-ware" or anything else), without the permission of the copyright
holder. A document granting such permission is called a "license."
> One
> alternative view could be that anyone downloading the Ziff
> software from a source other that Ziffmac owes Ziff some analogy
> to a royalty, in addition to any shareware fee that may apply.
There is no provision for compulsory licensing of software in US law.
The copyright holder has the "exclusive right" to control distribution.
"Exclusive" means no one else has right to decide otherwise.
> One court has interpreted the copyright clause
> to the effect that the only purpose of granting a copyright
> to the author of computer software is to promote progress in
> that field. ... Ziff is not an "author"
Ziff is an "author" in the sense of the copyright laws because it
caused its employees to create the software. As you may know,
authorship of software written by employees in the course of their
employment is attributed to the employer.
17 USC 201
Sect. 201. Ownership of copyright
...
(b) Works made for hire.
In the case of a work made for hire, the employer or other person for
whom the work was prepared is considered the author for purposes of this
title [17 USCS Sects. 101 et seq.], and, unless the parties have
expressly
agreed otherwise in a written instrument signed by them, owns all of the
rights comprised in the copyright.
17 USC 101 (Definitions)
A "work made for hire" is- (1)
a work prepared by an employee within the scope of his or her
employment; ...
> ...and even if it was, does
> limiting the *distribution* of software promote progress in
> the field?
Ziff caused the software to be written to encourage people to log
onto their forum. If the software is successful in this purpose,
Ziff will commission more (they release something new every month).
If it is unsuccessful (eg, because of rampant illegal copying),
they will likely terminate the program.
> Third: Mr. Engst makes the analogy between distributing Ziff
> software on the Internet to distributing commercial software
> on the Internet (and characterizes this as "software piracy.")
> IMO his analogy is inapposite. Commercial software is distributed
> through the community of resellers (the free market economy,
> so called), so that anyone who wishes may purchase it at the
> best price they can find.
For copyright purposes, it makes no difference whether you label
software "commercial" or not. The software is only licensed to
users of ZiffNet's forum; people who obtain it elsewhere are doing
so in violation of the license, and this is just as illegal as
getting Microsoft Word somewhere other than a commercial source.
> It seems to me that the Ziif strategy
> is more closely analogous to the 'fair trade' practices common
> ten or fifteen years ago (in which companies would only sell
> to one retailer within a particular geographic area) and subsequently
> found unlawful as restraint of trade and competition.
Totally irrelevent. First of all, that was antitrust not "fair trade".
Secondly, copyright gives you a legal monopoly, and is therefore an
automatic exception to antitrust, at least within the scope of the
"exclusive rights" granted to copyright holders. 17 USC 106 puts
distribution squarely within the "exclusive right" of copyright holders.
Thirdly, ZiffNet is both the author and the exclusive distributor of
the software, and antitrust requires two separate entities to have a
restraint of trade (no "intra-company conspiracies"; see _Copperweld
v. Independence Tube_, 467 US 752 (1984)).
Fourthly, exclusive marketing areas were upheld by the Supreme Court
(see _Sharp v. Business Electronics Corp_, March 1988), so your analogy
appears to be invalid even on its own terms.
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